jehovah's witnesses basically define the term "apostate" as someone who was once a member of the "organization" (a jehovah's witness) but no longer follows the teachings, rules, regulations and practices.
the society gives their official definition in the following manner: "apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.
some apostates profess to know and serve god but reject teachings or requirements set out in his word.
that is correct. In 2013 the summer assembly talk "Human Apostates" made it to the Netherlands where a lawyer in the newspaper called out the church talk as 'hate speech' based on a statute instituted after the war in response to Hitlers treatment of the Jews. The Church immediately toned down their rhetoric for the following assemblies. This was posed on this site.
In that talk I am the apostate they singled out as using a new tactic of sending letters to the publishers homes.
a lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
Peace
a lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
Balaamass 2
Carbon copy here wife left in 2004 as I was a threat to her spirituality. Only difference she has a annual income of $36,000 alimony paid by me. 2004-2022 ,18 1/2 years x $36,000 = $666,000.00. From your position under the porch you know Connie.
It was after she left I started to send those letters to the homes of the local publishers which got me specifically mentioned in the 2013 summer convention talk "Human Apostates". Which I would believe would make me the only one on this site to have the honor of having the GB put me in their talk as an apostate using the new tactic of sending letters to publishers homes and sending it around the world.
I guess that paying out $666,000 certifies that I am one sandwich short of a picnic, had I turned into "a porch dog" I could still have Connie, my son's, daughters in law and at least know the names of my 10 grandchildren. But the down side of that I would still have Connie.
I still write letters, I got one in to the AMA dealing with Lev.5:1 and the 1987 Sept1 Wt article "A Time to Speak When ?" and the 2013 NWRT revision of Lev.5:1. But being one sandwich short of a picnic long odds that I can get the AMA make the connection to the blood transfusion policy.
Private message me and I will take you out to coffee.
Shalom Bill
it’s a shame the gov body did a big u turn on vaccines .
if they continue with the rule that only fully vaxed can go back to the hall then i could have stayed on zoom.
but the term fully vaxed is a moving target, if it’s been like six months since your last shot you are just the same as those of us who are unvaxed .
Chesdale
I am in the same camp as you. I have a personal friend a ER Doc [raised a JW], he took the shots had a heart attack. Has a bro & sister who are research doctors [ I can't remember if they are still JW's], so had all the latest technical data.
the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.
i can live with that.
if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!
Been there, and more.
You are more blessed than most of us as you are retaliative new to the journey of shunning.
I am in California. Which means that in a very FEW months the molestation law suites will be filed. Last year about October the law suites in NY were filed about 2 months prior to the close of window of legal exemption of statute of limitations. That window will close here in Calif. 12-31-2022. How many cases have Anderson/Zalkin consortium have waiting to be filed just prior to deadline?
Add to that the those upcoming molestation cases to the coming out of the pandemic and back into meeting routine low attendance. That should equal a KH sell off at an accelerated rate.
So I am saying you have a "DATE" to focus on 12-31-2022. Some time between now and then the JW world will be shaken when those law suites are filed. It will be a big deal! I use this site to monitor what is going on behind the walls of 'shunning'. Do the same yourself. Keep your mouth shut, allow those law suites do the thinking. Until then if possible when they go to meeting you go for a walk.
"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.
the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.
Depression is the common denominator for this site. The WTB&TS produces depression of a nature that kills!
Diet and exercise, cures [or makes survival possible] ; depression, plague, or what ever ails you. How ever you want to look at it, it is a real bitch! Fortuitously I have this magical place called " Whiskeytown National Park" . Taking your troubles on trails with lions, bears, snakes does good things for depression, fat asses and assorted maladies.
Good luck if you live in Memphis, Chicago, NY, LA. I will tell you this. If you want to scare the hell out of a pistol packing peaceful protester just put them in the Interstate going through a forest and show them the road sign to watch out for bears.
so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.
full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.
the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.
76 years old here. I got 52 years as a heavy duty truck mechanic. Check out web site "Covert's Mobile Truck Repair" Redding Calif., for a picture of myself and service truck. Service truck is a 2018 Ram 550, I got a new $12,000 welder, everything 1st cabin.
I got $3,000 a month alimony because I was a threat to my ex wife's spirituality, I got 10 grandchildren of whom I do not even know their names.
The difference between this message today and the same message when my generation got it is Matt.24:34. The difference of the substance of this current message and the message of the 'baby boomer' era is the difference of the creative thinking of Stephen Lett compared to Fred Franz. Fred Franz and Ron L. Hubbard must of been cut from the same piece of cloth. The "obedience to the Organization mantra" started in 1984 and yes I did recognize the purpose of that mantra as the church's move to shut down minds in that there was no person in the organization with as fertile of a mind as Fred Franz to perpetuate a line of BS to bridge the demise of Matt. 24:34.
i recalled an experience, that happened to me as i was awakening to the borg.
i really brought home to me, just how asleep the r&f are to the vices of the org.
at the time i had just learnt on the internet how the org was using quick builds/ refurbishment to get the titles of the halls e.g menlo park.
That was the "racket" of the "snare & racket".
That very issue is setting on a desk some where.
Newsweek article Nov.14 "Jim Jones Drugged the only Lawyer Who Stood Up to Him". That lawyers name was Gene Chaikin, from Redding Calif. He worked for the county before he went to follow Jim Jones.
Using that article I packaged up my Lev.5:1 9-1-1987 Watchtower article "A Time to Speak When?" and sent it to a local Christian University and a very power Church School of Supernatural Ministry. There I can reach a pay grade that can comprehend the importance of the deception regarding the "witness" in par. 6 &7. And how it relates to the death of "Prince" the JW pop singer, the "two witness Rule" and other JW "policies. The cherry on the top is a tip as to where Jared Kurshners billion dollars is hiding today.
The WTB&TS revised their Bible in 2013. They revised Lev.5:1. To this day they have cloaked that revision in silence. To understand why is going to take some one two or three pay grades above Lloyd Evans and Barbara Anderson.
The 9-1-1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" is a KEY. It unlocks the understanding of how the "snare" was fabricated. You folks were blind. The article on Gene Chaikin makes possible for REAL Bible scholars to see Jim Jones tactics at work currently in their own town.
The two schools are not answering my email inquiring as to status of my inquiry. There are several attorneys affiliated with one school. The main point of the material is encapsulated in the RICO meeting around 1983 that sought to over come the problem of 1975 in regard to cash flow and how to handle the void of the oracle Fred Franz inability to conjure up a narrative once 1975 blew up.
The "snare" was shutting down the minds by means of Jim Jones absolute obedience. Thus eliminating the need to come up a post 1975 narrative on Matt.24:34.
The "racket" was the interest paying Kingdom Hall loans which supplied a cash flow and built a world wide real estate empire as the Kingdom Halls were dedicated to Jehovah, aka WTB&TS. So your topic is now sitting somewhere of which I don't know.
Lets see how much of that pearl you guys can tear apart.
atlantis:.
do you have a copy of a letter that was sent out by a congregation overseer, with a complaint from the federal post office inspector, concerning letters being sent out by jw's?.
yes, i have it, but very few people show any interest in the letters anymore.
Sir this has nothing to do with the WTB&TS deception of Lev.5:1!
major newsweek article today.
the attorney jim jones drugged.
his name was gene chaikin.
Major Newsweek article today. The Attorney Jim Jones Drugged. His name was Gene Chaikin. He was from my town Redding Calif. He quit his job for the County to follow Jones.
I just might of found a place for my Lev.5:1 story
